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Thank you to [livejournal.com profile] headgardener who took my mind off weightier things today by posting this yesterday:
Q. What's the difference between a duck?
A. One of its legs are both the same, and its beak's a different colour.

I have a vague memory of inventing this joke (without the beaky bit) back in 1975, with two school classmates with whom I shared a particularly surreal sense of humour. We came up with dozens of gags like this, and this one was probably our favourite. Of course it could all be False Memory Syndrome, which it probably is, and someone will very likely come along at this point and say "I remember hearing that one back in 1839", which is the kind of thing that usually happens to me with this type of post.

Anyway, on a completely different track, [livejournal.com profile] greengolux, [livejournal.com profile] coalescent and the rest of Third Row will be pleased to know that twenty copies of Meta are currently winging their merry way across North America. Posting them from the large Post Office at 909 Third Avenue in New York yesterday was not without some difficulty, however. [livejournal.com profile] coalescent hand-wrote the addresses, which is no problem in itself, but I was unaware of certain facts which the following scenario should elucidate:

9.20am. Lick and seal twenty envelopes. Delicious. Clean teeth again.

9.30am. Arrive at Post Office in cheerful mood with twenty brown envelopes containing fanzines to post to the great and good of US and Canadian science fiction fandom.

9.35am. While waiting in queue, get hassled by elderly and rather unhinged woman who wants me to know the US has a serious immigration problem with moslems and [livejournal.com profile] george_w_bush should evict them all to Guantanamo Bay, or perhaps somewhere less hospitable. Ignore and hope she goes away and hassles someone else. She does.

9.40am. Less than friendly post office clerk, whose tone would convince anyone from out of town that yes she does want to argue with you, advises me: "We can't accept these, you have no return address on the envelopes. Don't you know it's been the law since 9/11?"
Taken aback a little I reply, "No I do not, as I'm not American," thankfully.

9.41am. With mild irritation, retreat to large table in middle of large room. Open envelope addressed to Dale Spiers and extract fanzine in the hope it contains [livejournal.com profile] greengolux's return address. It does. Hand-write return address in England twenty times in small letters along the bottom of the front of twenty envelopes, because [livejournal.com profile] coalescent has written all the addresses nearer the top. Re-seal Dale Spiers' envelope with tape, realising he will probably now think the CIA are on to him.

10.02am. Rejoin queue. Get hassled by kids trying to see/hear what I'm playing on my iPod. Motörhead. Be afraid.

10.10am. The same annoyingly bright and cheerful clerk advises me, "We can't accept these, the return address should be at the top of the envelope not the bottom, the zipcode reader reads the zipcode nearest the bottom so will probably direct these to your return address."
To which, with a more visible onset of mild irritation, I reply, "But I've posted mail here before [my own fanzines with printed labels] with the return address underneath. You've just watched me spend twenty minutes handwriting these." Despair sets in.
"Well, I'm just advising you. Give them here –"
"Hold on, a moment ago you said you can't accept them, so are you now saying you can accept them? I don't want to post them if you are certain they won't arrive at their destination."
"Look, I'm just trying to be of service, sir, OK?"
"Then can you be more clear on what you can and can't accept?"
"Look, I'll take them."
"Thank you. In that case I will need nineteen 60c stamps and one for 85c."
"I need to weigh them first."
"Please go ahead."
"...They're 60c each. How many?"
"Nineteen."
"And one for?"
"Canada."
"...That's 85c. Cash or cheque?"

10.20am. Envelopes posted, now in desperate need of some browsing at Barnes & Noble across the street.

Of course, this means twenty copies of Meta could in fact be winging their way back across the Atlantic to [livejournal.com profile] greengolux's mum's address, but at least she won't have to read all of them...

Date: 2004-12-29 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maureenkspeller.livejournal.com
Clearly, 'going postal' doesn't just refer to the people in the back room, then. It can happen on the other side of the counter too. And jobsworths aren't just a UK phenomenon. Joy, joy, joy.

Date: 2004-12-29 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
Ain't life sweet.

Date: 2004-12-29 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com
Pete, you're a hero. That was definitely going above and beyond--thankyou. :)

(And I make it that we owe you about UKP8--does that sound right?)

Date: 2004-12-29 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
Sounds about right.

Date: 2004-12-29 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemiancoast.livejournal.com
'one of its legs is both the same' was definitely in the Puffin Joke Book circa 1975, so that's probably where you got it from...

Date: 2004-12-29 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
I knew it... :-)

Date: 2004-12-29 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
Actually that's rather depressing, to think that we couldn't come with anything better than what was in nothing more than the Puffin Joke Book...

Date: 2004-12-29 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greengolux.livejournal.com
Thank you so so much for this! I owe you big time. What can I do to thank you? Buying you drinks/books/grovelling for eternity are all possible options.

Date: 2004-12-29 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miramon.livejournal.com
"Difference between a duck" definitely goes back to at least 1970, and quite possibly a lot earlier. I suspect it's 50's or thereabouts.

something the clerk overlooked--

Date: 2004-12-29 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eleyan.livejournal.com
You licked those envelopes! They have your DNA all over them! Surely that counts as a hazardous substance? I mean, think of all the nasty British cold bugs...

Re: something the clerk overlooked--

Date: 2004-12-29 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
As hazardous as anthrax in the mail... Dale Spiers doesn't know what he's got coming.

the difference between a duck

Date: 2004-12-29 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maryread.livejournal.com
My dad asked the same question, and gave the same answer (first bit, without beak) in the early sixties. For years I have looked in vain to find anyone else who has heard either question or answer.

Date: 2004-12-29 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerrykaufman.livejournal.com
It would be nice if one were aimed at Seattle. Even if it's going to the Chunga offices, we could borrow it.

Date: 2004-12-30 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greengolux.livejournal.com
I'm fairly sure one is heading Chunga-wards at least. But if you don't get to see a copy do just let me know and I'll make sure one gets sent out to you.

Date: 2004-12-31 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerrykaufman.livejournal.com
Wel,, you'll be receiving a Littlebrook whenever we get the thing onto paper and into the mail - and not just because the Hoop has a review of your fanzine in it.

We'll be at Andy's house tomorrow evening for New Year's Eve. (Do you celebrate New Year on the same day we do, he asked with a straight face.) If the mail is working right, I'll see all, know all.

Date: 2004-12-31 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
One was addressed to Randy and IIRC another to Andy.

Date: 2005-01-02 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] risschris.livejournal.com
I've found if you're cute, you receive fantastic service at the any United States Post Office, and they'll even address your envelope for you with a smile.

Date: 2005-01-02 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
That obviously includes you and excludes me, then! :-)

Date: 2005-01-02 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] risschris.livejournal.com
Needless to say, I was nonplussed when it came to addressing things to areas outside of the United States. It was my first time, and no where could I find a clear example of how I should go about listing particulars.

Date: 2005-02-26 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sdn.livejournal.com
so YOU are the nice person who made sure i got my copy. (why do you travel so much?)

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