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I think the front page of The Independent today struck the correct tone, particularly with this very good side column by Andrew Buncombe.

The initial agreement that [livejournal.com profile] swisstone was pointing me to here seems to be a deal struck, somehow, by Virgin Atlantic only, according to various Sunday papers. If so, I wonder if it will stick. BA have still not committed either way, which accounts in part for the deafening silence I and my colleagues are hearing, but I find it difficult to imagine the DoT and the CAA (not to mention the FAA) agreeing to different deals with all the various British airlines that fly into the US. Meanwhile, According to the headline Independent article, Thomas Cook Airlines (a British charter carrier) are bravely (quixotically?) refusing to co-operate with plans to put armed guards on their flights. I expect they will get slapped.

"So Pete, what dramas were there when you arrived in New York?"

I can't enter the US under the Visa-Waiver scheme because I need two different US visas to do my job, therefore one visa has to apply whenever I enter. So, arriving at JFK I step up to the desk, and once again they take my photograph with face-recognition software and again I provide the required biometric information to a country of which I am not even a citizen. Guess what, my fingerprints mis-match again. There's a major balls-up here, obviously.

I'm herded into another side office, and amid much confused scanning of computer terminals by three Immigration Officers, I try to keep my sense of humour. I promise them I have not changed my fingerprints since the last time I entered the country, and then one of the officers finally queries, "Is there a [crew member X] on your crew?"

"Yes there is," I reply.

"Because his fingerprints are matched with your name."

"So what can you do about it? [X] has already passed through your Immigration controls with no problem. Can't we just scratch my record and start again?"

"We've only had this system three days, we don't know how to do that."

"So I'm now going to have this problem every time I enter the US? I come here up to four times a month, you know."

"Well," cheerily, "Looks like it, for now! You're free to go."

Just great.

So somehow the Immigration Officer in Philadelphia on 31st December screwed up my record right from the start and has partly given me another identity. Until they figure out how to correct my record, my actual entries into the US will have to depend partly on my convincing explanation of their Officer's mistake in Philadelphia every time I arrive, and I have no guarantee that I will be allowed to enter the US as normal, and could well be denied entry if ever a Customs officer is having a personal 'Code Red' day.

I fear this wider 'biometrics' saga will be another deterioration in US relations with the rest of the world, and the tit-for-tat backlash has already started. Brazil and Mexico are now saying they will fingerprint arriving US citizens (Mexico were already planning this for visiting Guatemalans in an effort to curb illegal immigration). Once again, the Bush administration desperately needs to demonstrate some multilateral accord with other nations instead of pissing everyone off with the sudden early introduction of a particularly unwelcome security measure. Tom Ridge, Homeland Security Secretary, yesterday: "Today marks the beginning of a new chapter in our government's commitment to securing our nation while upholding America's ideals about freedom of travel and the spirit of welcoming foreign visitors..." This really is a double-edged sword for the US. I expect people will prefer to stay away.

Date: 2004-01-06 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sbisson.livejournal.com
I'm going to be intrigues to see how the system copes with my left index finger tomorrow, seeing as the tip of it was reattached after I cut it off in an increadibly geeky Leatherman tool accident...

Date: 2004-01-06 02:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hnpcc
I fear this wider 'biometrics' saga will be another deterioration in US relations with the rest of the world, and the tit-for-tat backlash has already started.

Understatement. It'll be interesting to see if their tourism drops and if that has any impact on the legislation.

I also fail to see how it's going to do anything useful really, particularly while they don't have the "departure" scans set up yet.

Software

Date: 2004-01-06 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well, Pete, the problem isn't with the government. The problem is with the computers. They are probably running some damned Microsoft product. If they had only bought Macs...

FPK3

Re: Software

Date: 2004-01-07 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
I'd hate to think of my Mac being put to such a use... I doubt Steve Jobs would like the idea either!

At $380m-a-year of your tax dollars, it doesn't sound cheap to me. BA are also well-known in the computer industry as cheapskates, spending £5m on a particular computer system and expecting it to do the work of a £10m system...

Re: Software

Date: 2004-01-07 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
PS. In rather timely fashion given my recent experiences, Apple have just re-released their famous 1984 (http://www.apple.com/hardware/ads/1984/1984_480.html) ad. The runner is now wearing an iPod. (You'll need Quicktime 6) ...Cheers, [livejournal.com profile] sbisson.

Date: 2004-01-06 08:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hnpcc
I remember reading somewhere that there was a native American (forget which group) prophecy that travel would cease in 2012.

I think I'm beginning to see why.

(Of course it could be the Mayan end of the world one coming true that does it as well, you never know!)

Date: 2004-01-07 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishlifter.livejournal.com
Is it worth trying something such as going to the US Embassy in London before you have to fly out again and explaining the position to them -- with a letter confirming all this from someone at your HQ if that's possible -- in the hope that they could either help to get it properly fixed or give you some additional documentation which explains there's been a mix-up and they know and you should in fact be allowed into the US with the minimum hassle now possible? Or can your management/trade union take it up?

If all else fails, do you have a sane and helpful MP who could press enquiries about it with the relevant Government Departments and US authorities?

Date: 2004-01-07 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
I hope to be speaking to someone in my office about it before I go to the Tun tomorrow. Of course, they'll be as in-the-dark about a solution as everyone else, but it won't hurt to keep them informed and ask them to address the matter somehow.

I really don't want this hassle, it's the sort of problem that will compound itself unless it's nipped in the bud.

Date: 2004-01-07 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daveon.livejournal.com
This would have had my father spinning in his grave. He worked on the first computer fingerprint systems and this sort of cock up is the kind of thing he always moaned would happen on large matching systems.

He would have also pointed out that anybody who uses their hands reguarly is going to be a problem too as the print change enough over a period of time for a computer not to recognise them.

Date: 2004-01-07 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peteyoung.livejournal.com
Interesting point, that... just how much do fingerprints change over a lifespan?

Date: 2004-01-07 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daveon.livejournal.com
For most people not enough. But for certain people in certain jobs it can be a huge amount, his "watch list" would be builders, anybody who worked with their hands actually, housewives and so forth.

That's not to say they can't be fingerprinted, but that you need to take the original print carefully and a human will probably need to do the analysis.

Shows like CSI with their "magic" fingerprint software don't help the perception of this stuff.

Date: 2004-01-08 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bibliofile.livejournal.com
Shows like CSI with their "magic" fingerprint software don't help the perception of this stuff.

Yeah, well, that's probably where the idea came from in the first place. Gods know it wasn't the newspapers or Real Life.

Date: 2004-01-11 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yonmei.livejournal.com
I just linked to this post on my livejournal (http://www.livejournal.com/users/yonmei/209366.html): hope you don't mind.

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